[robocup-small] Schedule for SSL Rules 2008

Mon Oct 1 03:23:31 EDT 2007

Hi,
I'm a former member of Plasma-Z

I agree with BengKiat in the point that robots should have more ability to
play with ball to enhance sending and receiving ball.
Criteria of dribbling should be considered  to change.
The rules such as 20% ball covering and degree of freedom of dribbling ball
may have to change.

I haven't thinking about what it should to be yet.

Regards,
Nawarat

On 10/1/07, Beng Kiat Ng <nbk at np.edu.sg> wrote:
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> I believe a lower speed ball would not improve passing.
>
> The current problem is that robots are too fast and has unlimited energy.
> And they are too clumsy in term of ball handling. So passing takes a longer
> time compared to blocking a ball as the receiving robot takes a while to get
> control of the ball and change direction, compared to the defending robot,
> which are capable of accelerating to a postion at very high speed.
>
> We need slower robot, or more dexterous robot (able to dribble faster and
> more skillfully) or bigger field.
>
> Regards
> BengKiat
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> Do you think that with a different ball (heavier and/or softer) we would
> be able to lower kick speed further and force passing and coordination?
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> Andy Bardagjy
> Georgia Tech RoboJackets
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> On Wed, 2007-09-12 at 10:22 +0800, Beng Kiat Ng wrote:
> > Hi Roman,
> >
> > I believe we all want to see more team coordination.
> > And team coordination is impossible (or limited) if there's no/little
> > passing.
> >
> > Currently, passing rarely occurs during gameplay. And we are limited
> > to one pass most of the time. It would be nice to see a string of
> > passes, where team can control the ball and create opportunities.
> >
> > As for ball speed, I don't see it affecting passing much. The ball has
> > to be much faster than robot speed. I would think that currently, the
> > main problem is that robot is too fast. Cutting down robot speed will
> > reduce field size requirement, but nobody has a good idea on
> > controlling robot speed yet.
> >
> > The only problem I have with current ball speed is that robot can
> > score from one end of the field to the other. That really discourage
> > passing as there is less need to bring the ball up to the opponent
> > side of field.
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> > Regards
> > BengKiat
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> > This is Roman from the Georgia Tech team. I think that a larger field
> > would be an improvement and add to the gameplay possibilities like
> > passing and better team coordination. However I am interested to know
> > what the primary objective is in increasing the size, I think that
> > that will partially dictate just how and how much to change the size.
> >
> > Would this mean that the max kicking speed would also change?
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