[robocup-small] Schedule for SSL Rules 2008
Gordon Wyeth
wyeth at itee.uq.edu.au
Mon Oct 1 04:47:10 EDT 2007
Hi All
One of the older proposals for resolving this issue (that no-one has mentioned
for a while) is to have a standard battery pack for all robots on all teams. An
appropriately limited energy source forces some serious changes in strategy:
+ Continuously running robots from one end of the field to the other at high
speed is no longer possible.
+ Dribbling the ball for long distances is costly in terms of energy,
particularly if back spin is being applied to the ball.
+ Indiscriminate use of high power kickers will drain energy.
+ Heavy large robots will use more energy, encouraging lighter, smarter robots.
+ Strategies for moving the ball without moving the robot (i.e. passing) become
much more attractive.
For your consideration
Gordon Wyeth
(Formerly from the RoboRoos)
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I believe a lower speed ball would not improve passing.
The current problem is that robots are too fast and has unlimited energy. And
they are too clumsy in term of ball handling. So passing takes a longer time
compared to blocking a ball as the receiving robot takes a while to get control
of the ball and change direction, compared to the defending robot, which are
capable of accelerating to a postion at very high speed.
We need slower robot, or more dexterous robot (able to dribble faster and more
skillfully) or bigger field.
Regards
BengKiat
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Do you think that with a different ball (heavier and/or softer) we would
be able to lower kick speed further and force passing and coordination?
Andy Bardagjy
Georgia Tech RoboJackets
On Wed, 2007-09-12 at 10:22 +0800, Beng Kiat Ng wrote:
> Hi Roman,
>
> I believe we all want to see more team coordination.
> And team coordination is impossible (or limited) if there's no/little
> passing.
>
> Currently, passing rarely occurs during gameplay. And we are limited
> to one pass most of the time. It would be nice to see a string of
> passes, where team can control the ball and create opportunities.
>
> As for ball speed, I don't see it affecting passing much. The ball has
> to be much faster than robot speed. I would think that currently, the
> main problem is that robot is too fast. Cutting down robot speed will
> reduce field size requirement, but nobody has a good idea on
> controlling robot speed yet.
>
> The only problem I have with current ball speed is that robot can
> score from one end of the field to the other. That really discourage
> passing as there is less need to bring the ball up to the opponent
> side of field.
>
> Regards
> BengKiat
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> This is Roman from the Georgia Tech team. I think that a larger field
> would be an improvement and add to the gameplay possibilities like
> passing and better team coordination. However I am interested to know
> what the primary objective is in increasing the size, I think that
> that will partially dictate just how and how much to change the size.
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> Would this mean that the max kicking speed would also change?
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