[robocup-humanoid] [2] Rule Suggestion: 15-45 seconds ReadyState

[Jörg Zimmer]

In Aibo League we had an official game controller (controlled by assistant referee). After round robin we used a function called “Auto Pause” meaning that all interruptions of the game were not count to official game time. Similar to what you wrote in [1].

The advantage was that repositioning and  other stoppages of the game did not influence the 2 x 10 minutes game time.

The disadvantage was that we sometimes did not finish within scheduled time and delayed the next matches.

I think Auto Pause might be discussed for 2011 if game controller is used by the majority of the teams then.

 

I understand that we cannot lose 6 minutes of game time to reposition. That’s why I suggested to give it to referees choice to break earlier.

 

However the old rule only gives only 15 seconds and there are no doubts that this is too short.

 

So the consensus might be:

up to 10 seconds in case of all robots are manually positioned (should be enough time for the robot handlers)

up to 30 seconds if robots reposition autonomously – can be stopped by referee if no targeted behavior is shown

 

 

Von: tangtang [mailto:tangq at iipc.zju.edu.cn] 
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 16. Dezember 2009 12:23
An: Jörg_Zimmer
Cc: Humanoid League Mailing List
Betreff: Re: Re: [robocup-humanoid] [2] Rule Suggestion: 15-45 seconds ReadyState

 

I go through you mails again, and your email address again. 

 

Thank you for your considerations for new teams. 

 

If lengthen the time to 45s, won't you think there might reduce the chance for teams to get a goal? I don't know.

 

In human soccers, the referee always waits players return to there fields to start the game, because all human players have the ability to reposition themselves. There is no timing during this process. Waiting for a fixed time no matter 30 seconds or 45 seconds is not important. The 30 seconds is timed for promoting the competition but taking advantage from one team over other teams. Consider the human soccer competition, I have one sugguestion as follows:

 

1. If both teams are using the referee box. Then the timing is much easier for the referee. We could cut the reposition time from the match time easily on computer. Then we could wait 45s or 1 minutes and so on. So ever robot player could have enough time for reposition. This way, teams won't lose chance of goaling by waiting for other teams to reposition themselves. 

 

2. If either team puts the robot manually, 30s timing is used. robots could stand anywhere in their half fields is an advantage over the manual team. 

 

 

I don't know if it is more reasonable, only my thoughts on the problems of repositions. 

 

Thank you

 

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