[robocup-small] robocup-small Digest, Vol 67, Issue 1

[Mustafa Talaeezadeh]

?Dear all,

    I think we all agree on the expansion of the field size. The thing is, the purpose of the SSL is teamwork, with realistic physiques involved, so, Dear Omid, I think the more preparation time for "joining" (instead of mixing) is in contrast with the main purpose; the robots should play their tactics IN COMBINATION with others, not alongside, nor dominated by.
   The latter matter, the number of robots; Though increasing the number of robots helps integrity in tactics, the matter of maintenance is still causing issues, both financial and technical, specially "newbies". So I think we should put our heads together to find AN OPTIMUM number of robots of each team to be shared in a mixed-team, and that can be tested in local events' Technical Challenges and feedbacks sent to the Community and the Committee.
   I myself, regardless of my respectful fellows, suggest that each mixed team be formed as a 12-robot combination of 2 discrete teams, with some FLEXIBLE limitation for each team; by that I mean if a team have 5 robots to share instead of 6 (= 12 / 2), the other team is allowed to put 7 robots in the mixed team; but all teams should AT LEAST have 3 robots in the field, that means NO team can have more than 9 robots, and the mixed team that have less than 6 robots in the field PERMANENTLY (being fixed alongside the field and the game, and timeouts are excepted), will be OUT, 10 to 0 in the favor of the opponent, if both mixed teams hit the criteria, the TIE, 0-0 will be put as the result. By these, the matches keep their toughness and still welcome newbies. 

PS: Practically, less than 3 robots mans a 2-2 junior soccer team with vision that is provided for them dedicated!, and joint AI's!

Peace and Love
Mustafa Talaeezadeh Khousani

From: Omid Bakhshandeh 
  Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 10:30 AM
  To: Mani Monajjemi 
  Cc: robocup-small at cc.gatech.edu 
  Subject: Re: [robocup-small] robocup-small Digest, Vol 67, Issue 1


  Hi,


  Dear Mani I think increasing robots up to 7 or 8 is possible, now teams in SSL have at least 1 robot as backup.Mixed team is a good idea if teams have time for preparation with each other.

  Best Wishes




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  From: Mani Monajjemi <mani.monajjemi at gmail.com>
  To: Omid Bakhshandeh <omidtnt2004 at yahoo.com>
  Cc: robocup-small at cc.gatech.edu
  Sent: Fri, September 24, 2010 10:03:25 AM
  Subject: Re: [robocup-small] robocup-small Digest, Vol 67, Issue 1

  Hi all,

  From my point of view, increasing the field size is a good idea,
  however increasing the number of robots per team will make the SSL
  harder for new-comers to join. In addition, extending the number of
  robots for many currently active teams might be so expensive, besides,
  maintenance of  for example 10 robots is much more challenging and
  expensive than maintenance of 5 or 6 robots.

  I think it would be better if we consider mixed-team competitions as a
  solution to put more robots on a expanded field.

  Regards,
  Mani Monajjemi
  Parsian Member

  On 9/23/10, Omid Bakhshandeh <omidtnt2004 at yahoo.com> wrote:
  > Hi dear all,
  > What is your idea about changing the field size after 3 years and add more
  > robots  to small size game to decrease the distance between real  soccer
  > game
  > and small size robots cooperation? I think SSL-Vision will support the size
  > ,
  > all team can test and inform others about the size of field.
  >
  >
  > Best Wishes
  >
  > Omid Bakhshandeh
  >
  > MRL Member
  >
  >
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