[robocup-small] Rewriting Rules
Yang Liu
yli at puv.fi
Sun Nov 15 05:59:03 EST 2009
Hello,
In my opinion, there is missing clear instructions to the referee box
commands in current rules, e.g. what are the functions of Halt, Stop,
Ready, Normal/Force Start and under what situation they should be used.
And in the procedures of law of kick off, indirect/direct free kick,
penalty kick should be also included the procedures of referee box
commands. Our new guys who develop AI have no idea that indirect/direct
free kick doesn't wait for start signal, but kick off and penalty kick
have to wait for start signal. These are not stated anywhere in the
rules.
For me I have also something unclear. There have been quite a number of
occasions where I found the word "it", but difficult to know does it
refer to the robot or the ball. For example in Law 9 Decision 1, "but
under no circumstances should the robot remain in contact or touch the
ball after it has traveled 50 mm", does this "it" refer to robot or
ball? What about if the robot is dribbling the ball which can be
allowed a distance less than 500 mm? Guessing is not good, the rules
should make everything clear.
I also agree with Christoph Lueginger's proposal to make the rules in a
structured way. It could be much easier and more efficient for
different roles of people (software/hardware/mechanics team members,
referees) to understand better.
Best regards,
Yang Liu
Quoting Alireza Haghshenas <alirezahaghshenas at gmail.com>:
> Thank you for the suggestion.
> I agree with you in that in the new structure anyone should be able to
> just read the sections that are interesting to him/her.
>
> bests,
> Alireza
>
> PS: Please use reply all, so your email will be sent to the mailing list
> and everyone can contribute to the discussion. Thank you.
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> Christoph Lueginger wrote:
>> Alireza Haghshenas schrieb:
>>> Hi All
>>
>> Hello!
>>
>> [...]
>>> * the rule structure in general
>>
>> I want to propose a division of in three main parts:
>>
>> 1.) SSL in general like field of play, ball, vision etc.
>> 2.) the robot itself like dimensions, dribbling device, 80/20-rule etc.
>> 3.) the game-rules e.g. time, time-out, goal, free-kick, ...
>>
>> The idea of the result is, that a team-member, which develops the AI
>> has to read Nr. 1 and 3, while a team-member in mechanical engineering
>> has to know 1 and 2 and a referee has to now part 3.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Christoph Lueginger
>>
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