[robocup-humanoid] Humanoid Robots- NEED EXPERT ADVICE

[Sara Iatauro]

Thank you everyone and Amy and Damien for the multiple food for though. I
really appreciate it!

Best,

On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 9:56 PM, AMY EGUCHI <amy_eguchi at bloomfield.edu>
wrote:

> Beside from Bioloid, Robotis actually has many educational kits:
> http://en.robotis.com/index/product.php?cate_code=121010
>
> Robotis Darwin Mini is much cheaper (plastic) and kind of cute:
> http://en.robotis.com/index/product.php?cate_code=121310
>
> However, not the same effect as Nao or Darwin OP has...
>
> amy
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 9:02 PM, Damien Kee <damien at domabotics.com> wrote:
>
>> Makes sense, although Humanoid platform doesn't automatically imply an
>> advanced programming language.
>>
>> As for platforms, have you seen the bioloids?
>> http://www.tribotix.com/Products/Robotis/Bioloid/Bioloid.htm
>>
>> or the ones from Lynxmotion
>> http://www.lynxmotion.com/c-181-pete.aspx
>>
>> They don't look as slick, but are considerably cheaper.  ($7k for a NAO
>> is pretty good compared to what they were just a year ago!)
>>
>> Regards
>> Damien Kee
>>
>> On 9 October 2015 at 08:38, Sara <siatau at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Damien! That is my approach as well and everything you mention is
>>> exactly what I believe. I also see how the humanoid system has advanced
>>> programming language skills which can be beneficial for some students. In
>>> some research I have done, I see that humanoids (already built) robots are
>>> very appealing and can be effective pedagogy to our Autistic clientele. In
>>> Quebec, we have 1 out of 66 children who are diagnosed with Autism. By the
>>> year 2025, research is showing 1 out 12. Plus, these kids are linear
>>> thinkers which could be interesting to explore. As such, would like to
>>> experiment with a humanoid type robot first.
>>>
>>> Does that make sense?
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Oct 8, 2015, at 5:33 PM, Damien Kee <damien at domabotics.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm going to be "that person" and ask what I believe is the fundamental
>>> question, "what are you trying to teach?"  I view robotics not as a subject
>>> but as a tool for teaching STEM topics.  We're not teaching robotics, we're
>>> using robotics as a really engaging way of teaching STEM concepts.  All
>>> educational decisions need to first address what is trying to be achieved,
>>> and then as a secondary measure, identifying the tools that can be used to
>>> teach those concepts.  If robots are a good fit to teach those concepts,
>>> then that's great, otherwise you look to other technologies / tools to
>>> teach those concepts.
>>>
>>> Why do you need to use humanoids for teaching?  This is a genuinely open
>>> question.  Is there something that a humanoid platform enables that other
>>> platforms don't?  More engagement?  More context to robots in society?  All
>>> are valid approaches.
>>>
>>> If the concepts can be taught with a simpler / cheaper system, then as
>>> an educational organisation this is probably a better way to go.  How many
>>> LEGO/VEX/Arduino kits can you purchase for the same price as one humanoid?
>>>
>>> Me personally, I'd prefer to buy 100 arduino kits and reach 100x more
>>> students than a NAO (US$20,000???)
>>>
>>> Just my 2cents worth (although worth a lot less with the current AUD/USD
>>> exchange rate!)
>>>
>>> cheers
>>> damo
>>>
>>> On 9 October 2015 at 02:23, AMY EGUCHI <amy_eguchi at bloomfield.edu>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Sara,
>>>>
>>>> I know some school teachers (all from private schools) using NAO in the
>>>> U.S. With NAO, you can use Choreographe to start programming NAO. The code
>>>> created with Choreographe can be opened with Python. Those students (event
>>>> they are high school students) are all using Choreographe at this point.
>>>>
>>>> If you are interested, I can introduce you to the teacher who has been
>>>> using NAO for last two years.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> cheers amy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 12:14 PM, Sara Iatauro <siatau at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear RoboCup Colleagues,
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope this message finds you well. As some of you may know, I am an
>>>>> educational consultant for 68 schools in STEM (Science & Robotics) for both
>>>>> primary and secondary inclusive education groups. I have received a large
>>>>> grant to implement robotics in all our schools over the next 3 years. The
>>>>> system we are using are EV3, VEX, some Arduino right now. I am trying to
>>>>> move the Secondary schools especially to all use Arduino. I am in the
>>>>> process of getting them all set-up for material and training. With this
>>>>> initiative, I am hoping to adopt a more computer science/ technical model
>>>>> as many of your international schools would probably have. The province of
>>>>> Quebec, Canada Secondary schools are really lagging behind compared to many
>>>>> of your country schools or programs. I have also witnessed and seen this
>>>>> from many RoboCup events over the years.
>>>>>
>>>>> One of my next school programs I am looking at is Humanoid Robot
>>>>> systems. I am looking to all of you as experts to enlighten me on which
>>>>> humanoid I should look at implementing at the Secondary level in the near
>>>>> future. Would it be the NAO or Darwin or another one?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for your help,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> *~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~*
>>>>> Sara Iatauro, PhD. (STEM scholar)
>>>>> “Educating the mind without educating
>>>>> the heart is no education at all.”   - *Aristotle*
>>>>> <http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/2192.Aristotle>
>>>>> *~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~*
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> **************************************
>>>> Amy Eguchi, PhD
>>>> Associate Professor of Education
>>>> Bloomfield College
>>>> 467 Franklin Street
>>>> Bloomfield, NJ 07003
>>>> 973.748.9000 ext. 1122/1110
>>>> amy_eguchi at bloomfield.edu
>>>> emiamy at post.harvard.edu
>>>>
>>>> ******* Peace on Earth ************
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> **************************************
> Amy Eguchi, PhD
> Associate Professor of Education
> Bloomfield College
> 467 Franklin Street
> Bloomfield, NJ 07003
> 973.748.9000 ext. 1122/1110
> amy_eguchi at bloomfield.edu
> emiamy at post.harvard.edu
>
> ******* Peace on Earth ************
>
>
>


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Sara Iatauro, PhD. (STEM scholar)
“Educating the mind without educating
the heart is no education at all.”   - *Aristotle*
<http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/2192.Aristotle>
*~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~*