[robocup-humanoid] robocup-humanoid Digest, Vol 49, Issue 2

[Guillermo Villarreal]

Hi all.
I think that the orange tennis ball for kidsize is ok.
About the white ball i think it will be very hard to identify for many teams. I know that the league has to evolve but i think that would be too much for now. 
About the robot's color: we use some aluminium parts, but the biggest ones are made from carbon fiber. Motors are also black, so painting them to aluminium seems useles to me. Furthermore, i think that aluminium looks better black painted. . So i suggest to leave open the option of using black or aluminim color for every team.
About the poles i would like to keep them. But if the league has to evolve i think that's the next step.
Best regards
Guillemro VillarrealTeam Bogobots.

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>    1. Rule Discussion for 2011 (Oskar von Stryk)
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> From: Oskar von Stryk <stryk at sim.tu-darmstadt.de>
> Subject: [robocup-humanoid] Rule Discussion for 2011
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> Dear HL Teams,
> 
> To continue the discussion of the evolution of the rules
> which we had in the team leader meeting on June 23, 2010, in Singapore
> I am posting a summary from my notes.
> 
> Please send your comments and additions to this mailing list.
> 
> We should aim at finalizing the rule discussion for RoboCup 2011 in 
> Istanbul, by the end of 2010.
> 
> Best regards,
> Oskar
> 
> Notes from team leader meeting on 2010/6/23:
> -------------------------------------------
> Layout of the field:
> 
> - Increase Teen/AdultSize Field
>   	+ approx. 1.5 times / area doubling
>  	+ 7:0:1  pro:con:abstains (only Teen/AdultSize teams)
> 
> - Removing poles
>  	+ 2:14:2 majority against
> 
> - Aim for KidSize 5vs5 demo games on enlarged Teen/AdultSize Field.
> 
> - GC: increase penalty for manually started teams to 20 s
>  	+ 4:12:3  majority against
> 
> - specify the maximum mesh size of the net
> 
> - Other ball for Teen/AdultSize
>  	+ FIFA size 3 and 5 orange balls
>  	teams need to check
> 
> - Other ball for KidSize?
>  	+ other orange ball:
>  	 	--> check with SPL about availability of their ball
>  	+ white ball ?
> 
> - Number of players in TeenSize
>  	+ increase to three: 1:5:6 (majority against)
> 
> Design of the robots
>  	+ minimum height TeenSize: everyone who thinks
>  		of attending TeenSize votes:
>  		80cm: 3
>  		90cm: 0
>  		100cm: 6
>  		abstains: 5
>  		no majority for decreasing minimum hight TeenSize
> 
>  	+ foot size reduce from H^2/28 to H^2/30
> 
>  	+ robot body color:
>  		aluminium frame
> 
>  		longterm goal: colored robot, brighter
> 
>  		teams for brighter color, white
>  		8:5:1
>  		but may have to color feet black
> 
>  		4.6.1 also you may not use team colors of the other team
> 
>  	+ size: later perhaps KidSize, TeenSize, Adultsize
>  		heights could be increased all together
> 
> Technical challenge
>  	+ TeenSize: double pass instead of footrace
>  		5:0:0
> 
>  	+ Replacing one challenge by kicking high challenge
>  		7:3:3
> 
>  	+ Remove throw-in for kicking high: 3
>  	+ remov passing for kick high: 4
>  	+ remove dribble: 2
>  	+ abstains: 4
> 
> 
>  	+ arbitrary ball challenge
>  		pro: 7:1:6
>  		everyone brings own ball, but gets own ball not
> 
>  		robot starts on center mark, ball selected by referee,
>  		first touch it
> 
>  		balls should be introduced first?
> 
>  		--> Check with SPL how they did it earlier?
> 
>  	+ There are some concerns that more than 3 challenges
>  		may cause lots of difficulties
>  		(preparation of teams more time consuming,
>  		more time for referee training needed, etc.).
> 
> 
> Rules of the game
>  	+ 10 goal difference mercy rule,
>  		teams that score more than 10 goals, e.g. 11:1,
>  		are counted only 10 goals for the round robin ranking
>  		(the other team of course gets their goals counted)
> 
>  		For counting less received goals
>  		5:0:9
>  		p. 40
> 
> - Number of trophies for Teen & AdultSize,
>  	depending on no. of teams
> 
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