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Hello friends<br><br>I agree with Yonghai, this rule has created many inconveniences and clashes between the teams and that's not good for our community.<br><br>The proposal is good, but it needs to be very specific. for example, in any situation in which the defender touches the ball inside the defense area was penalized.<br><br>More over it is necessary to define exactly when a robot is in the defense area: when the robot touches the line delimiting the area or when 50% of the robot is inside the area.<br><br>We must find a solution to decrease the subjective interpretation of the referee.<br><br>Regards<br><br>Saith Rodriguez<br>STOx's Team Leader<br><br><br><br><div><div id="SkyDrivePlaceholder"></div>> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 22:44:15 +0800<br>> From: liunian@zju.edu.cn<br>> To: robocup-small@cc.gatech.edu<br>> Subject: [robocup-small] the rule of "Two defender in defence area"<br>> <br>> Hi everybody,<br>> <br>> Maybe everybody in Mexico has a very deep impression on the law<br>> of "Two defender in defence area". There were 3 penalties in the<br>> Quarterfinals Skuba vs Immortals due to this law.<br>> Law 12 of rule 2012 give the detial definition: is the second<br>> defending robot to simultaneously occupy the team's defence area in<br>> such a way tosubstantially affect game play. But the rule did not<br>> give a clear definition of "substantially affect game play", is all up<br>> to the referee. So the problem is comming, i remembered that maybe<br>> more than 50% argument during the game are related to this law.<br>> In real soccer game, there has not limitaion of the number of<br>> defenders in defence area, but only allow the Goal keeper can handle<br>> the ball, if the other player touch the ball with hand, he will<br>> receive a read card and the team will receive a penalty.<br>> We can learn from this real soccer rule. All the robot can enter<br>> it's own defence area, but only the goal keeper can touch the ball, if<br>> the other robot touch the ball, the team will receive a read card and<br>> a penalty.<br>> <br>> Best regards.<br>> <br>> Yonghai Wu<br>> _______________________________________________<br>> robocup-small mailing list<br>> robocup-small@cc.gatech.edu<br>> https://mailman.cc.gatech.edu/mailman/listinfo/robocup-small<br></div>                                            </div></body>
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