[robocup-small] Robocup 2012 Major Rule Changes

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Sat Dec 17 06:48:03 EST 2011


Skuba can provide video for this.
I want more details about video.
How many robots? What robots do? or sth else.
RegardsO

> From: jgurzoni at yahoo.com.br
> To: james.bruce at gmail.com; chead at interchange.ubc.ca
> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 11:16:39 -0200
> CC: robocup-small at cc.gatech.edu
> Subject: Re: [robocup-small] Robocup 2012 Major Rule Changes
> 
> Hello everybody
> James, thanks for the input, it's certainly valuable information for us.
> 
> Taking advantage of this email, the TC would like to ask for videos from the
> teams showing their capabilities to pass/play/handle the ball (i.e. not
> letting it go out of bounds) so a proper value can be selected. 
> Would be of great value as well if logs can be gathered during the video
> execution. 
> 
> 
> 
> Best,
> Angelo 
> On behalf of the SSL TC for Mexico 2012
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: robocup-small-bounces at cc.gatech.edu
> [mailto:robocup-small-bounces at cc.gatech.edu] On Behalf Of James Bruce
> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 8:56 PM
> To: Christopher Head
> Cc: robocup-small at cc.gatech.edu
> Subject: Re: [robocup-small] Robocup 2012 Major Rule Changes
> 
> On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 15:25, Christopher Head
> <chead at interchange.ubc.ca> wrote:
> > 1. The maximum ball speed will be reduced from 10m/s to between 6m/s
> > and 8m/s. Expect to hear back on the exact limit within the next month
> > after we review videos of some tests using the lower speeds.
> 
> Hi, here's a data point you may be interested from a former
> participant (CMDragons '01-'07; champion in '06 and '07).  Our '07
> team would initiate long passes at up to 7.5 m/s, and this did occur
> in some of our games based on the logs I dug up.  Obviously we could
> not receive the ball at that speed, but since the ball was
> decelerating we could kick it faster on a long kick so it would
> *arrive* at speed that could be received.
> 
> So, a rule change for a maximum speed of less than 6m/s for any kick
> would actually limit the passing we did.  With the speed that robots
> are now going, it might make long passes difficult.  Options for
> avoiding limiting passing would be only applying the max-speed rule to
> non-passes (might be hard to referee) or using a limit above 7.5m/s
> (such as 8m/s).
> 
> Take care,
>   James Bruce
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