[robocup-msrs] Answers to questions
George Chrysanthakopoulos
georgioc at microsoft.com
Mon Jun 25 12:25:46 EDT 2007
Hi Nikos, cut-and-paste in the email below split the namespace lines, show it looks confusing.
There are code examples of finding entities and controlling them in sim services we ship.
SimulatedLaserRangeFinder, SImulatedDifferentialDrive, SimulatedWebcam, show the pattern Kyle describes.
Also please add as a reference the simulation engine dll, to your project.
SimulationTutorial2 talks about entity enumeration as well.
Thanx
g
-----Original Message-----
From: nikos.vlassis at gmail.com [mailto:nikos.vlassis at gmail.com] On Behalf Of Nikos Vlassis
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 9:21 AM
To: Kyle Johns
Cc: George Chrysanthakopoulos; robocup-msrs at cc.gatech.edu
Subject: Re: [robocup-msrs] Answers to questions
Hi Kyle,
I tried the code below but there were some problems:
> using simengine = Microsoft.Robotics.Simulation.Engine;
>
> using simcommon = Microsoft.
Something is missing here. What do you mean?
After commenting out the 2nd using, I got the following compilation errors:
-----------------------------------------------
Error 1 The type or namespace name 'VisualEntity' could not be found
(are you missing a using directive or an assembly
reference?) C:\Microsoft Robotics Studio 1.5 (CTP May
2007)\samples\simulation\competitions\simulatedsoccerservices\simplerobudogsoccerplayer\SimpleRobuDOGSoccerPlayer.cs 133 9 simpleRobuDOGsoccerplayer
Error 2 The type or namespace name 'InsertSimulationEntity' does not
exist in the namespace 'Microsoft.Robotics.Simulation.Engine' (are you
missing an assembly reference?) C:\Microsoft Robotics Studio 1.5 (CTP
May 2007)\samples\simulation\competitions\simulatedsoccerservices\simplerobudogsoccerplayer\SimpleRobuDOGSoccerPlayer.cs 135 56 simpleRobuDOGsoccerplayer
Error 3 The type or namespace name 'DeleteSimulationEntity' does not
exist in the namespace 'Microsoft.Robotics.Simulation.Engine' (are you
missing an assembly reference?) C:\Microsoft Robotics Studio 1.5 (CTP
May 2007)\samples\simulation\competitions\simulatedsoccerservices\simplerobudogsoccerplayer\SimpleRobuDOGSoccerPlayer.cs 141 56 simpleRobuDOGsoccerplayer
-----------------------------------------------
The last 2 disappeared (but error 1 remained) when I used
using simengine = Microsoft.Robotics.Simulation.Engine.Proxy;
thanks,
Nikos
--
On 6/13/07, Kyle Johns <kylej at microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> As George says, it is very easy to write code to find the position of your
> players or the soccer ball and also to move them. The state of each entity
> in the simulation environment is held in a class which derives from
> VisualEntity. You can query the simulation engine for the state of any
> VisualEntity in the environment. If you are running on the same node as the
> simulation engine, you will get back a pointer to the actual object. If you
> are running on a node on another machine, you will get back a pointer to a
> copy of the entity.
>
>
>
> The SimulatedWebCam service (source is in
> samples\simulation\sensors\simulatedwebcam) provides a good
> example of how to query the simulation engine for a particular entity and
> then receive the response:
>
>
>
> You must first add a reference to the following two DLLs in your project:
>
> Bin\SimulationCommon.Proxy.Dll
>
> Bin\SimulationEngine.Proxy.Dll
>
>
>
> In the Start method of your service, add the following code to send a
> subscription request to the simulation engine:
>
>
>
> (this code assumes that you are running on the same node as the referee)
>
>
>
> using simengine = Microsoft.Robotics.Simulation.Engine;
>
> using simcommon = Microsoft.
>
> simengine.SimulationEnginePort _notificationTarget;
>
>
>
> _notificationTarget = new simengine.SimulationEnginePort();
>
> simengine.EntitySubscribeRequestType esrt = new
> simengine.EntitySubscribeRequestType();
>
> esrt.Name =
> "blueteam/field/2/simulatedsoccerplayer/robotmotioncontrol";
> // for example
>
> esrt.Subscriber = ServiceInfo.Service;
>
> _simEngine.Subscribe(esrt, _notificationTarget);
>
> MainPortInterleave.CombineWith(
>
> new Interleave(
>
> new TeardownReceiverGroup
>
> (
>
> ),
>
> new ExclusiveReceiverGroup(
>
>
> Arbiter.Receive<simengine.InsertSimulationEntity>(true, _notificationTarget,
> InsertEntityNotificationHandler),
>
>
> Arbiter.Receive<simengine.DeleteSimulationEntity>(true, _notificationTarget,
> DeleteEntityNotificationHandler)
>
> ),
>
> new ConcurrentReceiverGroup()
>
> )
>
> );
>
>
>
> This sends a request to the simulation engine for a pointer to the entity
> with the specified name. The MainPortInterleave.CombineWith statement adds
> two new message handlers which handle the InsertSimulationEntity and
> DeleteSimulationEntity messages. A possible implementation for these would
> be:
>
>
>
> VisualEntity _entity = null;
>
> void
> InsertEntityNotificationHandler(simengine.InsertSimulationEntity
> ins)
>
> {
>
> _entity = (VisualEntity)ins.Body;
>
> }
>
>
>
> void
> DeleteEntityNotificationHandler(simengine.DeleteSimulationEntity
> del)
>
> {
>
> _entity = null;
>
> }
>
>
>
> Now, at any time in your simulation, you can query this entity for its
> position and orientation:
>
>
>
> Vector3 myPosition = _entity.State.Pose.Position.
>
>
>
> The orientation of the robot is represented by a quaternion in
> _entity.State.Pose.Orientation. Or, there is also a
> property on VisualEntity that returns the orientation as a rotation angle
> (in degrees) around each axis:
>
>
>
> Xna.Vector3 rotation = _entity.Rotation;
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> This is the code that the referee uses to move the soccer ball around the
> field. Once you have a pointer to the "SoccerBall" entity, you can move it
> by calling the QueueMovePoseForPlayerEntity using the following call:
>
>
>
> SpawnIterator<VisualEntity,Vector3>(_entity, newPosition,
>
> QueueMovePoseForPlayerEntity);
>
>
>
> IEnumerator<ITask> QueueMovePoseForPlayerEntity(VisualEntity
> playerEntity, Vector3 position)
>
> {
>
> Port<EmptyValue> sequence = new Port<EmptyValue>();
>
>
>
> playerEntity.DeferredTaskQueue.Post(new Task(
>
> delegate()
>
> {
>
> playerEntity.PhysicsEntity.IsKinematic
> = true;
>
> Vector3 target = position;
>
> // Keep the robot altitude roughly the same but drop it
> from 1 cm
>
> target.Y =
> playerEntity.State.Pose.Position.Y + 0.01f;
>
>
>
> playerEntity.State.Pose = new Pose(target);
>
>
> playerEntity.PhysicsEntity.SetPose(playerEntity.State.Pose);
>
> sequence.Post(EmptyValue.SharedInstance);
>
> }));
>
>
>
> yield return Arbiter.Receive(false, sequence,
> delegate(EmptyValue e) { });
>
>
>
> playerEntity.DeferredTaskQueue.Post(new Task(
>
> delegate()
>
> {
>
> playerEntity.PhysicsEntity.IsKinematic
> = false;
>
> }));
>
> }
>
>
>
> You can move the soccer ball in a similar way:
>
>
>
> _soccerBallEntity.DeferredTaskQueue.Post(new Task<Vector3>(position,
> MoveInternal));
>
>
>
> MoveInternal(Vector3 position)
>
> {
>
> _soccerBallEntity.PhysicsEntity.IsKinematic =
> true;
>
> _soccerBallEntity.PhysicsEntity.SetPose(new
> Pose(position));
>
> }
>
>
>
>
>
> You can find an additional example of how to query the simulation engine for
> a simulation entity in the SimulatedDifferentialDrive service.
>
>
>
> -Kyle
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: George Chrysanthakopoulos
> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 10:22 AM
> To: Nikos Vlassis; Kyle Johns
> Cc: robocup-msrs at cc.gatech.edu
> Subject: RE: [robocup-msrs] Answers to questions
>
>
>
>
> Hi Nikos our engine is built in a way that pretty much *everything* is
> accessible through code, local or remote. Kyle and I will send instructions
> on a few ways you can interact with the simulation engine, to
> programmatically reposition *any* entity, in real time. This is all doable.
>
>
>
> Thanx
>
> g
>
>
>
>
> From: robocup-msrs-bounces at cc.gatech.edu
> [mailto:robocup-msrs-bounces at cc.gatech.edu] On Behalf Of
> Nikos Vlassis
> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 9:37 AM
> To: Kyle Johns
> Cc: robocup-msrs at cc.gatech.edu
> Subject: Re: [robocup-msrs] Answers to questions
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Kyle,
>
> thanks for your answers.
>
>
>
>
> 8) How can we reset robots/ball to specific positions during development?
> Moving the ball to a specific position is easy, moving the robots is more
> difficult. To move the ball position, put the simulator into edit mode by
> pressing F5. This pauses the physics engine so your soccer players and the
> ball will stop moving. Find the Soccer Ball entity in the upper-left-hand
> pane and select it. In the lower-left-hand pane, select the position
> propery. Either type in new position numbers or press the control key and
> drag the ball around the field with the left mouse button to move it. When
> you have it positioned properly, press F5 again to return to simulation
> mode.
> I'm still working on an easy way to move the Robudogs around and I'll let
> you know as soon as I have it.
>
>
>
>
> This is fine, but we need a way to do the above with C# code, otherwise
> it's not very useful. Clearly one of the main advantages of the simulation
> as opposed to the real system, is that collecting training data is cheap,
> and based on these data one can use various learning techniques for adapting
> whatever algorithms one is developing. Unless there is an
> automatic/programmable way to set the objects in the desired positions,
> there is no hope that one can use such techniques for learning how to play
> soccer. I believe it would be really a pity if we are not given this
> possibility --- in fact we assumed that this would be the case when we
> registered for this event, and it would be very disappointing if it turns
> out that this option is disabled. Whatever techniques one uses for algorithm
> design, I believe that there should be a programmable way to test the
> developed algorithms without interacting manually with the simulator
> graphics.
>
> thanks,
> Nikos
>
>
>
>
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