[robocup-legged] Rule Changes and Poll

Tucker Balch tucker.balch at cc.gatech.edu
Wed Sep 27 16:27:56 EDT 2006


As an organizer I would like to be able to "sell" that logo
space.  If you could work that into your model that would be
great.

Tucker


On Sep 27, 2006, at 3:29 PM, Colin McMillen wrote:

>> Humans localize by looking at field lines, goals, teammates and
>> opponents, and by observing natural landmarks like the audience etc,
>> but to a much lesser degree.
>
> I do not speak for any team, nor am I making a vote, but:
>
> In real soccer (at least in professional games) there are significant
> advertisements present on a wall around the field.  In the past, we
> have had team logos, Sony logos, Aibo logos, etc. in the area nearby
> the fields, but always on the "outside" from the robot's point of view
> (on the outside of the walls back when we had walls, now on the sides
> of the raised field, etc.)
>
> It would be interesting to allow each team to make one logo or banner
> and place it in a (static) location around each field, in areas where
> the robots can see the logos and localize based on them if they so
> choose.  Since these "markers" are free-form and similar to what you
> might see in real soccer, they would increase the realism of the game
> while still providing some "natural" landmarks as additional visual
> cues to the robots.  (The crowd is much too unstructured -- and far
> away -- for the AIBO to do any meaningful localization directly on the
> audience, I think.)
>
> To make these "markers" more useful to the robots (and not look too
> ugly around the field), the technical committee could specify that
> they must be a rectangle of a certain size, have a white background
> with black text or drawing, and maybe a black border.
>
> Just an interesting thought...
>
> In more general terms, I agree that we shouldn't be too interested in
> making sure the games are "entertaining".  Watching AIBOs run in
> circles and fall over is entertaining enough to the vast majority of
> outside observers.  Few of the local people at the venue know much
> about past RoboCup history and will not complain if the quality of
> play decreases slightly for a year.  Our goal should be to push the
> science forward whenever possible.
>
> Colin
>
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