[robocup-legged] Re: [Humanoid] AIBO balls

[William Uther]

Sorry for the slow reply...

   This comes up every year in the legged league.  Yes, we'd love  
straighter balls.  They'd have to be significantly better to make it  
worth changing though - otherwise we need to re-work the low levels  
(much work) for no significant gain.

   I think it is already too late for the legged league to change for  
2006.

Will       :-}

On 04/02/2006, at 4:21 AM, Hans-Dieter Burkhard wrote:

> before we are going to produce new balls, we should look for
> a possibly new specification. e.g. one which allows more precise
> kicks.
>
> dieter
>
>>
>> Dear Masaki Ogino,
>>
>> Last year there had been two balls been used in kid size,
>> the pink ball which comes officially with an AIBO package
>> and the orange ball which is used by the AIBOs in the Four-Legged  
>> League.
>>
>> In the current rule book for kid size only the orange ball is  
>> allowed in 2006.
>> Therefore, I assume that you mean the orange ball and not the pink  
>> ball.
>>
>> There has been a posting on the 4L mailing list in December
>> for ordering of orange Aibo balls and uniforms.
>> If it is not too late, may be the ordering of orange balls
>> for humanoid kid size league can be combined
>> with the ordering of balls made by the 4-Legged League (if not  
>> already
> planned).
>>
>> The decision about future balls in kid size is difficult to make now
>> without having alternatives for discuss.
>> Such a decision may also depend on the plans of the 4L league for  
>> 2007.
>> I suggest that the TC chairs of Humanoid and 4-Legged League
>> may discuss about this point.
>> If the 4L continues in 2007, they will also need to provide enough  
>> orange
>> balls in 2007. Then, the problem is the same for 4L and HL kid size
>> and the costs for new balls can be shared.
>>
>> Thank you very much for your efforts!
>>
>> With best regards,
>> Oskar von Stryk
>>
>> On Fri, 3 Feb 2006, Masaki Ogino wrote:
>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> As you know, Sony has announced that they abandon the division  
>>> for robots.
>>> The AIBO balls we use now for Kid size class will not be provided  
>>> by SONY
>>> anymore.
>>> The Japanese company which is now selling AIBO ball, Tsukumo  
>>> electronics,
> will
>>> stop to sell the balls immediately after their current stocks are  
>>> sold out.
>>>
>>> The four legged league is now planning to order to make balls
>>> to one Japanese company, and the staff of AIBO league asked me
>>> how many balls the humanoid league will order.
>>>
>>> The price of balls depends on the total number of the orders of  
>>> AIBO and
>>> humanoid leagues.
>>> The current estimated price is $ 50 per one set which includes  
>>> four balls,
> $8
>>> for additional ball.
>>> (I am going to order 10 balls for Japan Open.
>>> If there anyone who want to buy, please notify me as soon as  
>>> possible.)
>>>
>>> We must determine whether we will use the AIBO balls in the future
>>> competitions.
>>> If yes, the organizer will have to prepare the enough balls for  
>>> possible
>>> participants,
>>> if the organize provide balls to participants as the previous  
>>> competitions.
>>> (The company said that new building balls cost about $ 1000 in  
>>> spite of the
>>> number
>>> of orders if the orders are less than 200.)
>>> If no, we must determine the new specifications of balls which  
>>> are easily
>>> available for everyone.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sincerely yours,
>>> Masaki Ogino
>>>
>>>
>>> /---------------------------------------------------------------/
>>> Masaki Ogino
>>>
>>> Emergent Robotics Area, Dept. of Adaptive Machine Systems,
>>> Graduate School of Engineering, Osaka University
>>>
>>> E-mail: ogino at er.ams.eng.osaka-u.ac.jp
>>> /----------------------------------------------------------------/
>>>
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>>
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